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From Frogans Editors by ginkit <fcr-aa@...>
Sent Sun, 21 Feb 2016 22:38:19 UTC
Subject Re: [Frogans technology - Early-questions] bugs submission
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Date Sun, 21 Feb 2016 22:38:26 UTC

 Hi Vincent,
Your second test for "bad" <button> is not working for the same reason,
you have set the "opacity" of the 'layer6' <layer> to less than 51, so
even the text is not anymore in the entering mask...
Your also right about the fact that this rule is not described in the
documentation yet. From what I know, Frogans Technology aims tomake
sure the final user sees directly the difference between a button and
anything but a button. The opacity rules comes from here.
Aurelien

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2016-02-20 14:51 GMT+01:00 deca <[4]vincent.deca@...>:

  Hello,
  First of all, thanks for your answers
  I didn't gave all the ressources because, those were just some
'proof
  of concept' for what, it seems to me, are abnormal behaviors.
  I have a question about what you said for bug1.fsdl:
----
 The rule that applies here is that the Entering Mask (the zone(s)
  activating the display of the 'focusED' <layerS>) of a button
is
  composed of the <layerS> having a "visible" value set to
'always' or
  'nofocus' AND an combined opacity strictly greather than 50.
----
  This led me to try another test for the "bad" button with the
following
  layers :
   <button buttonid='b_file' goto='slide' fileref='f_file' >
    <layer layerid='layer4' leapout='lead' resref='d_nofocus'
  pos='120,100' combine='clip' visible='nofocus' opacity='50'/>
    <layer layerid='layer5' leapout='lead' resref='d_focus'
  pos='120,100' combine='clip' visible='focus' opacity='20'/>
    <layer layerid='layer6' leapout='lead' resref='t_file'
  pos='120,100' combine='clip' visible='always' opacity='50'/>
   </button>
  Now, the button can't be used anymore
  It means, that we can't do buttons with an opacity lesser than
51
  Is this a normal behavior ? (I didn't find anything in the
  documentations about it)
  Best regards,
  Vincent Deca.
  Le 18/02/2016 18:17, Frogans Editors by ginkit a écrit :
  Hi Vincent
   mailman mharc scripts For bug1.fsdl :
  First of all, as I don't have the 'open_book1.png' file, I see
the
  Alterative Image in the background of the slide.
  Your 'b_file' button is working when you place the pointer on
the
  "<bad>" characters of your 't_file' <restext>', but not on your
  'd_nofocus' <resdraw> background.
  As you said, the difference between your 'b_button' and your
'b_file'
  button is the "opacity" set on the <layer> associated to your
  'd_nofocus' <resdraw> :
  Ã <button buttonid='b_button' goto='slide' fileref='f_button'
>
  à à à<layer layerid='layer1' leapout='lead'
resref='d_nofocus'
  pos='120,40' combine='clip' visible='nofocus'/>
  à à à...
  Ã </button>
  vs
  Ã <button buttonid='b_file' goto='slide' fileref='f_file' >
  à à à<layer layerid='layer4' leapout='lead'
resref='d_nofocus'
  pos='120,100' combine='clip' visible='nofocus' opacity='30'/>
  à à à...
  Ã </button>
  The rule that applies here is that the Entering Mask (the
zone(s)
  activating the display of the 'focusED' <layerS>) of a button
is
  composed of the <layerS> having a "visible" value set to
'always' or
  'nofocus' AND an combined opacity strictly greather than 50.
  Setting the "opacity" of the 'layer4' <layer> to '51' solves
your
  problem.
   mailman mharc scripts For bug2.fsdl :
  Still I don't have the background image so I have switched your
  'img_backgrd' <resimage> "size" to '588,480' as you suggested
and added
  a <resdraw> line 8 like this :
  à <resimage resid='img_backgrd' size='588,480'
fileref='f1_backgrd' />
  à <layer layerid='l_bg' leapout='all' resref='img_backgrd'
pos='0,0'
  align='left-top' combine='add' />
  à <resdraw resid='drw_f_editors' size='588,200' figure='rect'
  stroke='off' color='#00ff00' />
  à <layer layerid='l_bg_f_editors' leapout='all'
resref='drw_f_editors'
  pos='0,0' align='left-top' combine='add' />
  When displaying the slide with Frogans Player, you can see that
several
  buttons are out of the "background" and that's prohibitted.
  You could solve this adding a new <layer> for each button out
of the
  background like this (example for 'b_layer' <button>) :
  à <layer layerid='layer16_bkgd' leapout='lead'
resref='d_nofocus'
  pos='120,190' combine='add' />
  à <button buttonid='b_layer' goto='slide' fileref='f_layer' >
  à à<layer layerid='layer16' leapout='lead'
resref='d_nofocus'
  pos='120,190' combine='clip' visible='nofocus'/>
  à à<layer layerid='layer17' leapout='lead' resref='d_focus'
  pos='120,190' combine='clip' visible='focus' opacity='20'/>
  à à<layer layerid='layer18' leapout='lead' resref='t_layer'
  pos='120,190' combine='clip' visible='always'/>
  à </button>
  Hope it helps
  Aurélien
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  2016-02-18 16:17 GMT+01:00 Jean-Emmanuel RODRIGUEZ
  [2]<[4][7]jean-emmanuel.rodriguez@op3ft.org>:
   Vincent,
   Thank you. This time I have received the FSDL documents (and
also
   the third bug to my personal address).
   We will share your feedback with the rest of our team. We
will get
   back shortly.
   Best regards
   Jean-Emmanuel Rodriguez
   OP3FT
  On 02/18/2016 03:58 PM, deca wrote:
   It's odd, I checked my 'sent' emails, the 2 files are joined
in my
   previous email.
   Second try, here are joined bug1.fsdl and bug2.fsdl
   I'll send a second email ton your personnal email with the
same
   files (just in case) and the third bug
   Best regards.
   Vincent Deca.
   Le 18/02/2016 15:38, Jean-Emmanuel RODRIGUEZ a écrit :

   Hello,
   Thank you very much for your feedback!
   But it seems that your fsdl files have not been sent to the
list...
   Please, could you try again?
   About the third bug, could you send it directly to my E-mail
   address, please?
   Best regards,
   Jean-Emmanuel Rodriguez
   OP3FT
   On 02/18/2016 01:40 PM, deca wrote:
   Hello
   I have some bugs to submit for the 0.5.1 linux version:
   - bug1.fsdl
   The "good" button is working perfectly
   The "bad" button is the same as the "good" button with an added
   option on the 'nofocus' layer : opacity='30'
   As you can see the "bad" button is hardly working .
   - bug2.fsdl
   This one is guetting an error code 101711
   The problem can be fixed line 6 : if you changes the size to
   '588,480', this is working perfectly
   - I have a third bug which is getting en error code 101705, but
the
   total of attachements will exceed 128KB, how can I submit this
one ?
   - My last bug is in the fsdl30-recap-v9-2016012.pdf document :
   <text> element is not referenced in the table of contents
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